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John@MPL

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Posted - 05 Jun 2014 :  15:20:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ver. 17.0.3.
I have laid down 2 diodes side by side, one reversed. My PCB assembler has flagged an offset error on one diode.

It would appear that the X/Y component position generated in 'Component Positions CSV' uses the Top Silk Screen information as the component centre not the pads. If the 2 diodes are 'Side by Side' with pads aligned in X, then there is no error, if I reverse one diode with pads aligned I get an 0.51 mm error.
My diode top screen show a block at one end for assembly direction.
Does this mean that the top screen outer edges must be symetrical around the pads ?

edrees

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Posted - 05 Jun 2014 :  15:23:45  Show Profile  Visit edrees's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Yes you are quite correct regarding the component centre generated from the s/screen outline and NOT from the pad centres.

I place the component origin (source) in the centre of the silk screen, that way you can place the components on the grid.

Edited by - edrees on 05 Jun 2014 15:25:05
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Iain Wilkie

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Posted - 05 Jun 2014 :  16:57:32  Show Profile  Visit Iain Wilkie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Correct, the silk screen is used to decide the x,y coordinates. However your pcb assembler should be able to correct any mis-alignment when setting up the pick and place.

Iain
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John@MPL

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Posted - 05 Jun 2014 :  17:04:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Edrees,

I have SM R/A Connectors that are not set with pads in the centre of the Silk Screen, can the reference be changed from the silk screen to Pad Centre Line, e.g. the EasyPCLib - Csm shows a 64ABPR-M connector but the pads that are not center of the Silk therefore would you need to manually measure the position of the pads and change the CSV file.

Thanks John.
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edrees

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Posted - 05 Jun 2014 :  17:06:52  Show Profile  Visit edrees's Homepage  Reply with Quote
One of my CEMs doesn't even bother to use the PIcknPlace info. His machines optically scans the pcb to work out the component centres for themselves.
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edrees

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Posted - 05 Jun 2014 :  17:17:40  Show Profile  Visit edrees's Homepage  Reply with Quote
John, I'm not aware of a method of changing how the software calculates the component centres. What you suggest is a rather fiddly way of doing it, - unless No1 can suggest an alternative method which doesn't involve growing the outline to fudge the component centre.

The easiest way is just to advise your Subbie of such "awkward" components and I'm sure he'll oblige.
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John@MPL

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Posted - 05 Jun 2014 :  17:48:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Edrees,

Now I understand how the X/Y file is generated, I can change the components in my Library or just get the CEM to jiggle the components.

Regards ... John.

Thanks for the feedback Iain ...


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