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davekelly
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 13:54:30
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I am trying to add a couple of inner powerplanes to my design, but struggling.
Currently a standard double sided design.
Using the Design Technology to edit the layers.
When I add the first one, and set it to the correct parameters for the layer, I get a message
Layer "Inner 1" is incorrectly positioned above layer "Bottom Silk" in the layer order. Please review.
Well it isn't incorrectly above it, as the bottom silk is the lowest. I don't need the bottom silk, so can delete that one.
But when I insert the next powerplane layer, I get the same message again, but the layer is above Bottom Copper.
Again the layers are exactly where I want them to be.
I can't do anything else apart from cancel, And I can't move the last added layer up or down in order either.
Am I missing something simple? |
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nigle
United Kingdom
45 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 14:07:44
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Originally posted by davekelly
Am I missing something simple?
No, this is yet another V16 bug. I have had a similar problem when trying to add a top paste layer. I then get the same message as you, but referring to a top side layer that was already in the design.
I gave up in the end, the deadline was looming and I could get away without the paste layer for the prortotype. |
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skieasy
United Kingdom
7 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 15:22:05
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quote:
Originally posted by davekelly
16.04
I am trying to add a couple of inner powerplanes to my design, but struggling.
Currently a standard double sided design.
Using the Design Technology to edit the layers.
When I add the first one, and set it to the correct parameters for the layer, I get a message
Layer "Inner 1" is incorrectly positioned above layer "Bottom Silk" in the layer order. Please review.
Well it isn't incorrectly above it, as the bottom silk is the lowest. I don't need the bottom silk, so can delete that one.
But when I insert the next powerplane layer, I get the same message again, but the layer is above Bottom Copper.
Again the layers are exactly where I want them to be.
I can't do anything else apart from cancel, And I can't move the last added layer up or down in order either.
Am I missing something simple?
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skieasy
United Kingdom
7 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 15:23:51
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[quote]Originally posted by davekelly
16.04
I am trying to add a couple of inner powerplanes to my design, but struggling.
Currently a standard double sided design.
Using the Design Technology to edit the layers.
When I add the first one, and set it to the correct parameters for the layer, I get a message
Layer "Inner 1" is incorrectly positioned above layer "Bottom Silk" in the layer order. Please review.
Well it isn't incorrectly above it, as the bottom silk is the lowest. I don't need the bottom silk, so can delete that one.
But when I insert the next powerplane layer, I get the same message again, but the layer is above Bottom Copper.
Again the layers are exactly where I want them to be.
I can't do anything else apart from cancel, And I can't move the last added layer up or down in order either.
Am I missing something simple?
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Try again
settings - design technology - layers - side , sometimes not matching
settings - design technology - layers - side - edit - side
make the edit entry the same and all is well
just a shame we have to !!!!! |
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davekelly
United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 15:39:30
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Thanks to both.
skieasy, not sure exactly what you are suggesting here.
I tried to fool it by exporting the layers to csv, editing the csv then reimporting, but no better.
It is just the layer check causing the issue, because now after editing it tells me that the bottom copper can't be above the bottom silk, so I swap those layers around and then get the message that the bottom silk can't be above the copper bottom.
 Grrr.
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skieasy
United Kingdom
7 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 16:02:11
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[quote]Originally posted by davekelly
Thanks to both.
skieasy, not sure exactly what you are suggesting here.
I tried to fool it by exporting the layers to csv, editing the csv then reimporting, but no better.
It is just the layer check causing the issue, because now after editing it tells me that the bottom copper can't be above the bottom silk, so I swap those layers around and then get the message that the bottom silk can't be above the copper bottom.
Grrr.
there are two ways to change the side for a layer
either double click on the layer in the 'side' column or select the layer line and click the edit tab
you'll find they show a diffent side when this error show up
reset the side using the edit tab and all's ok
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davekelly
United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 16:07:06
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It doesn't matter what 'side' I set the new layers to, it won't allow me to add them.
I now get the error from unrelated (to the new one) layers (eg bottom copper and silk, or bottom copper and dimensions
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skieasy
United Kingdom
7 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 16:13:40
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[quote]Originally posted by davekelly
It doesn't matter what 'side' I set the new layers to, it won't allow me to add them.
I now get the error from unrelated (to the new one) layers (eg bottom copper and silk, or bottom copper and dimensions
Yes dave i know what you mean they are unrelated but something in the program is changing these unrelated settings so until you put them back to there previous state (before you added youre new layer) they
will not go away !!] |
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nigle
United Kingdom
45 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 17:15:11
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OK, I see what is going on now. When you add a layer the grid on screen updates correctly, but the internal data structure in the program doesn't.
When a layer is added, all layers below it have to be moved down one in the array but only the Name and Colour get moved down. The layers end up with whatever Type, Side, Usage and Bias the previous layer in that slot had. Going into the edit window causes the array to be read and shows the incorrect values, resetting them and exiting writes them back correctly. You have to do this for every layer below the one added, which is rather tedious!
The programmer responsible is an idoit. This sort of careless bug (and not bothering to test properly after making changes) is becoming the norm for EasyPC unfortunately, if management don't start sorting it out then it is likely to hit the bottom line hard. I am sure many potential buyers have a look in the forums before making the purchasing decision, and the impression they will get is not good.
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Iain Wilkie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 17:15:51
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I have just tried this and get the same error...... have you emailed or phoned support about this ??
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davekelly
United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 09 Oct 2012 : 17:21:58
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I have emailed support, since everyone confirms it is a bug.
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jefftaylorjackson
United Kingdom
8 Posts |
Posted - 19 Nov 2012 : 09:13:47
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Hi all,
Do you know if this has been sorted out? I am using V14 and I am thinking to upgrade to V16. Maybe I will hang on until this is fixed.
Kind regards
Jeff |
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davekelly
United Kingdom
28 Posts |
Posted - 22 Nov 2012 : 07:26:34
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I can confirm the issue has been sorted
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Originally posted by jefftaylorjackson
Hi all,
Do you know if this has been sorted out? I am using V14 and I am thinking to upgrade to V16. Maybe I will hang on until this is fixed.
Kind regards
Jeff
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Adding copper layers