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hodali

Germany
148 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2011 :  08:45:19  Show Profile  Visit hodali's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Is it possible to add a second PCB to projekt? I always get the following message:

A project can only comtain one PCB design.

Why is Easy-PCB restricted to one PCB design? My gadget will have four different PCBs. How can I get round it?

Kind regards,

Daniel Hodali

Edited by - hodali on 07 Aug 2011 08:47:31

edrees

United Kingdom
779 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2011 :  16:35:40  Show Profile  Visit edrees's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Try making 4 projects, one for each pcb (and schematic), -obvious isn't it?
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hodali

Germany
148 Posts

Posted - 07 Aug 2011 :  21:55:06  Show Profile  Visit hodali's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Number one should improve or extend their product!

Kind regards,

Daniel Hodali

Edited by - hodali on 07 Aug 2011 22:20:10
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Iain Wilkie

United Kingdom
1015 Posts

Posted - 08 Aug 2011 :  10:00:41  Show Profile  Visit Iain Wilkie's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by edrees

Try making 4 projects, one for each pcb (and schematic), -obvious isn't it?



Well thats what the do every year !!
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robhardy

United Kingdom
55 Posts

Posted - 08 Aug 2011 :  14:40:22  Show Profile  Visit robhardy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
it is possible to add more than one board outline to a PCB, you can then translate you design from your schematic(s) to the pcb. You would then need to workout which component when to which board. I do not really see a professional use for this process.

Perhaps the problem is the definition of project. easyPC seem to see a project as a board.

I appreciate that in the real world a "project" can have more than one board but surely it make sense to have them as separate entities. For example what happens when you need to make a change to just one board, or if you find you can use a board in another "project".
I suspect you are looking to use sub projects within the main project, even this can fall down when you need to update one board and not another.

Regards

Rob hardy
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Benno

Netherlands
79 Posts

Posted - 08 Aug 2011 :  20:36:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Daniel,

Why did you choose EasyPC as a designtool? You seem to be unhappy about almost everything that has been in the tool for years.
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hodali

Germany
148 Posts

Posted - 09 Aug 2011 :  09:38:38  Show Profile  Visit hodali's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am not unhappy with Easy-PC, but I need some functions which are not included in Easy-PC. Some functions are easy to implement and Number One should know what users need. I only give number one a feedback Benno.

Number One could implement a shortcut for left mouse click. I think that is not a difficult task.

I also want to enter traces with specific length and be able to modify its length afterward by using an input field. This is a basic function and it is useful for high frequency design.

Support of panelization is a nice feature. But I think Number one should implement basic things at first.

Kind regards,

Daniel Hodali

Edited by - hodali on 09 Aug 2011 09:47:17
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davep

United Kingdom
101 Posts

Posted - 10 Aug 2011 :  10:45:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can see the need for several PCBs in one project. For power supply work it is often necessary to use the same circuit but fit it to different PCB shapes to fit the product. At present I just copy the entire project and change names. It would be nice to keep one master circuit and multiple layouts.
I do not normally put circuit values on such a circuit. This is done outside EasyPC.

For the price of EasyPC you can't expect to have the same features as a top priced package such as Mentor.

You could try Numberone's other offering; Pulsonix.
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jon90

1 Posts

Posted - 12 Aug 2011 :  11:01:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You could design the complete schematic, translate that to a pcb with some routed slots to put the complete design on to a breakout panel.

If it ain't broke take it apart.
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hodali

Germany
148 Posts

Posted - 13 Aug 2011 :  19:46:25  Show Profile  Visit hodali's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello Rob,

professional cad systems have a version control system which allows to work on a new version while keeping the old schematics and PCBs.

Kind regards,

Daniel Hodali

quote:
Originally posted by robhardy

it is possible to add more than one board outline to a PCB, you can then translate you design from your schematic(s) to the pcb. You would then need to workout which component when to which board. I do not really see a professional use for this process.

Perhaps the problem is the definition of project. easyPC seem to see a project as a board.

I appreciate that in the real world a "project" can have more than one board but surely it make sense to have them as separate entities. For example what happens when you need to make a change to just one board, or if you find you can use a board in another "project".
I suspect you are looking to use sub projects within the main project, even this can fall down when you need to update one board and not another.

Regards

Rob hardy

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Benno

Netherlands
79 Posts

Posted - 14 Aug 2011 :  18:43:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Daniel,

For version control you could use SVN. Most projects contain more than just schematics and PCB's.

I create a folder to hold all data for a project, including PCB's etc and put that under version control using SVN. That way you alsways have a proper log of changes and only one thing to backup (the SVN server database).

I believe EasyPC also has some form of version control now, but I have never used it.
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robhardy

United Kingdom
55 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2011 :  10:09:27  Show Profile  Visit robhardy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
version control is a separate point to what I was trying to say.

My version control is simple I move all schematics and pcb to a new folder and up issue them in that folder.

My point is more to do with with working on more than one board in a project. In this situation you will find you update the project but only one board changes. This board is then a different version but what about the other boards in the project. since the project has changed are they also now a different version or are they the same version. likewise another change affects one of the other boards only. Doing this process will cause more problems. I do not even think a more expensive package would recommend this route.

Also I think that easyPC is a professional package.

Ok it does not have all the features of some of the other packages available, but then you do not pay anywhere near as much for easyPC, in fact some yearly maintenance costs are more that the complete easypc package


Regards


Rob
quote:
Originally posted by hodali

Hello Rob,

professional cad systems have a version control system which allows to work on a new version while keeping the old schematics and PCBs.

Kind regards,

Daniel Hodali

quote:
Originally posted by robhardy

it is possible to add more than one board outline to a PCB, you can then translate you design from your schematic(s) to the pcb. You would then need to workout which component when to which board. I do not really see a professional use for this process.

Perhaps the problem is the definition of project. easyPC seem to see a project as a board.

I appreciate that in the real world a "project" can have more than one board but surely it make sense to have them as separate entities. For example what happens when you need to make a change to just one board, or if you find you can use a board in another "project".
I suspect you are looking to use sub projects within the main project, even this can fall down when you need to update one board and not another.

Regards

Rob hardy



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hodali

Germany
148 Posts

Posted - 16 Aug 2011 :  03:54:06  Show Profile  Visit hodali's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If you buy Easy-PC with all libraries and add-ons Easy-PC is not cheap.

Kind regards,

Daniel Hodali

quote:
Originally posted by robhardy

version control is a separate point to what I was trying to say.

My version control is simple I move all schematics and pcb to a new folder and up issue them in that folder.

My point is more to do with with working on more than one board in a project. In this situation you will find you update the project but only one board changes. This board is then a different version but what about the other boards in the project. since the project has changed are they also now a different version or are they the same version. likewise another change affects one of the other boards only. Doing this process will cause more problems. I do not even think a more expensive package would recommend this route.

Also I think that easyPC is a professional package.

Ok it does not have all the features of some of the other packages available, but then you do not pay anywhere near as much for easyPC, in fact some yearly maintenance costs are more that the complete easypc package


Regards


Rob
quote:
Originally posted by hodali

Hello Rob,

professional cad systems have a version control system which allows to work on a new version while keeping the old schematics and PCBs.

Kind regards,

Daniel Hodali

quote:
Originally posted by robhardy

it is possible to add more than one board outline to a PCB, you can then translate you design from your schematic(s) to the pcb. You would then need to workout which component when to which board. I do not really see a professional use for this process.

Perhaps the problem is the definition of project. easyPC seem to see a project as a board.

I appreciate that in the real world a "project" can have more than one board but surely it make sense to have them as separate entities. For example what happens when you need to make a change to just one board, or if you find you can use a board in another "project".
I suspect you are looking to use sub projects within the main project, even this can fall down when you need to update one board and not another.

Regards

Rob hardy





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